I just found out that the two books I ordered will get here Monday or Tuesday. That's the John Flynn book for the Double Wedding Ring and I also ordered Eleanor's "Still Stripping After 25 years". Am anxious to see what Eleanor's patterns look like in this book. Chris, the Pineapple pattern I have found on the web says you have to have a special ruler. Do you have this? Is it necessary? I won't be able to get out to look for this probably until at least Sunday. It's messy out today and we may have storms this afternoon and all day tomorrow is looking about the same. Next week is looking cooler and dry and much better for shopping. We don't have any place to look for fabric or books here where we live or I would look today. Have to drive at least 25 miles for the nearest stores. Our Walmart took out their fabric section, which I know wasn't the best, but at least it was something, and they did have books and I didn't have to go out of town. I have my son working on getting my pictures on my Photobucket site. I don't know why I can't get it to work, but he says he can go ahead and do it for me and afterwards will then explain to me how to do it. ... Mary Jane