Calf. Court considers if Drs. can withhold care based on beliefs

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  • 06-07-2008 10:26 PM

    Calf. Court considers if Drs. can withhold care based on beliefs

    Calif. court considers if doctors can withhold care based on beliefs

    By The Associated Press
    05.30.08

    SAN FRANCISCO — California's highest court considered this week whether doctors' religious beliefs give them the right to withhold medical treatment from lesbians and gay men, a group specifically protected under state anti-discrimination laws.

    Taking up a case that has pitted the promise of religious liberty against the guarantee of equal access, the state Supreme Court heard oral arguments May 28 in a lawsuit brought by a woman who claims her Christian doctors refused to perform artificial insemination on her because of her sexual orientation.

    Guadalupe Benitez, 36, of Oceanside, alleges that doctors at the only nearby medical practice covered by her insurance treated her with fertility drugs and instructed her how to inseminate herself at home, but told her their beliefs prevented them from assisting her further.

    "Doctors have the freedom, and rightly so, to pick their field and offer whatever procedures and protocols are appropriate for them," Jennifer Pizer, Benitez's lawyer, told the justices. "They do not have the freedom to discriminate against patients."

    Benitez, now the mother of a 6-year-old boy and 2-year-old twin girls, sued Vista-based North Coast Women's Care Medical Group under a state law that prohibits for-profit businesses from arbitrarily discriminating against clients.

    The law was originally designed to prevent hotels, restaurants and other public services from refusing to serve patrons because of their race. The Legislature has since expanded it to cover characteristics such as age and sexual orientation.

    Kenneth Pedroza, a lawyer for the North Coast doctors, said the court must recognize a solution that respects the right of gay men and lesbians to be treated with dignity and the right of doctors to honor their moral views.

    The doctors attempted to strike that balance, according to Pedroza, by being up front with Benitez about their views and referring her to another fertility specialist who did not object to performing in-office insemination on lesbians and eventually helped Benitez get pregnant through in-vitro fertilization.

    "The law should not allow one side's rights to trump the other side," Pedroza said. "The law should accommodate both sides."

    Associate Justice Carol Corrigan appeared skeptical, however, asking Pedroza whether a pharmacist who refuses to sell medicine "to people like you" but gives a customer cab fare to another pharmacy would be acting legally.

    "At the end of the day, you are saying that I may help a patient get the services, (but) I am not going to do it for you because of who you are," Corrigan said.

    Associate Justice Kathryn Werdegar asked Pizer why North Coast's attempt to find her a doctor without reservations about inseminating her was "not an accommodation of what we know is very important — religious freedom — and the accommodation of a person's right to be free from discrimination?"

    Pizer, who several times asked the justices to consider whether a doctor would be allowed to invoke religion in denying treatment to patients of certain races, said that scenario would create a segregated medical system that discouraged people from seeking care.

    "California doesn't allow doctors to become a whites-only doctor, or a heterosexual-only or a Jewish-only doctor," Pizer elaborated outside court.

    Benitez, who attended the hearing with her partner, Joanne Clark, agreed. She said that besides suffering the additional stress of not knowing who would perform the procedure and the indignity of being turned away, the referral to a doctor not covered by her insurance cost her thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket expenses. North Coast claims the clinic offered to pay the extra costs of sending her to another doctor.

    "It does do a great deal of damage to a person when you tell them they aren't worthy of having a child or having a family," she said.

    Pedroza also predicted an unwelcome outcome if the justices side with Benitez.

    "Physicians that have a conscientious objection ... will stop performing a medical procedure," he said. "It's not a minor imposition. It's a major imposition."

    The court has 90 days to issue its opinion in the case, which Pizer said would have to be sent back to a trial court for a determination of whether the facts of the case support Benitez's discrimination claim. The Supreme Court is addressing the narrower issue of whether a doctor's religious views can be used as a defense.


    Give me that old time religion

  • 06-07-2008 10:43 PM In reply to

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    A doctor who 'withholds treatment' for any reason should no longer be a doctor!   This is one of the reasons some refer to The Christian Right as America's Taliban.    I can see the similarities and it gives me a cold chill down my spine!

     

     

     

    Nature is the 'Great Mysterious' ... the religion before religions.

    Peter Matthiessen, Indian Country
  • 06-07-2008 11:06 PM In reply to

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    And this from a state that just legalized Gay marriage!  One step forward, two steps back...

    brigidSleep


    Give me that old time religion

  • 06-08-2008 12:08 AM In reply to

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    Simple. All those doctors have to do is suddenly find that that patients case is too complicated and cant be handled safely by them.

  • 06-08-2008 12:13 AM In reply to

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    I would hope after a doctor keeps finding 'certain types of people' too complicated someone would catch on.

    brigidSleep


    Give me that old time religion

  • 06-08-2008 12:20 AM In reply to

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    brigid by the lake:

    I would hope after a doctor keeps finding 'certain types of people' too complicated someone would catch on.

    brigidSleep

    Thats why you'd switch with other doctors in the practice. One month one guy does it the next another - just keep rotating. Then of course theres the issue medical records coming up missing. Lots of ways of getting around the "law" if you are creative enough. LOL

  • 06-08-2008 12:25 AM In reply to

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    Sounds like you have had some experience with 'getting around the law'.

    I would hope someone who goes into medical practice would at least uphold the Hippocratic Oath.  Surely they didn't just go into it for the moneyWink

    brigidSleep


    Give me that old time religion

  • 06-08-2008 1:38 AM In reply to

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    This should be a no-brainer with the Supreme Court executing a summary judgment.  If a doctor refuses treatment to an individual that he/she would would give to any other individual based on a single identifier, then the doctor is guilty of discrimination.  There's no argument.  And any doctor who can't find it whithin him/herself to treat an individual because of religious beliefs really needs to step back and consider another profession.   

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  • 06-08-2008 6:55 AM In reply to

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    brigid by the lake:
    I would hope someone who goes into medical practice would at least uphold the Hippocratic Oath. 

     I think the Hippocratic Oath pertains to healing. I'm not sure fertility treatments and some other surgeries, i.e. cosmetic, falls in this category.
  • 06-08-2008 7:30 AM In reply to

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    That's what I was thinking.  They weren't withholding medical treatment that the person needed to survive or anything.  Plus there were other doctors who didn't have a problem with it so why not just go to them?  And didn't they offer to help her pay the cost of the other doctor?

  • 06-08-2008 8:35 AM In reply to

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    Why not drive to another town to see a doctor who is not approved by her insurance and not part of (and presumably screened by) her medical plan, just because this doctor is a bigot?  

    So what other forms of bigotry would you allow?  Could he refuse fertility treatments because he thinks a patient isn't smart enough to be a good parent?  Because he doesn't think she's wealthy enough to raise a child the way he thinks one should be raised?  How about because he just doesn't like her?

    They say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is...
  • 06-08-2008 11:11 AM In reply to

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    peachygirl_GA:
    That's what I was thinking.  They weren't withholding medical treatment that the person needed to survive or anything. 

     

    Of course "that's what you were thinking" why am I not surprised? 

     

    Nature is the 'Great Mysterious' ... the religion before religions.

    Peter Matthiessen, Indian Country
  • 06-08-2008 11:55 AM In reply to

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    So as I work in a bakery if a really fat person came in I don't have to sell them a donut 'cause they're fat?

     

    And the Ford House doesn't have to change the oil in my car 'cause I drive a Chevy?

     

    And I don't have to pay my phone bill because AT&T has muslim customers????

     

    uhhhh-huhhhhhhhh

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  • 06-08-2008 12:27 PM In reply to

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    Could a doctor refuse to prescribe viagra for single men?  Isn't that the same thing?
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  • 06-08-2008 1:24 PM In reply to

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    we have some very good friends that are transexuals and wanted their top surgically done and there were a couple of surgeons that refused to do the surgery, when one of our friends asked why didn't dr. so and so do? after all, he did the other one, the one dr. told him that well, he suddenly developed a conscious.

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