Manson Follower (Susan Atkins) Is Denied Parole

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  • 07-16-2008 11:11 AM

    Manson Follower (Susan Atkins) Is Denied Parole

    SOME IS GRUESOME-- but what do you think??

     

    By Andy Furillo - Sac Bee

     

    "Maybe it was the 16 rips with the knife on 8 1/2 -month pregnant Sharon Tate.

    Maybe it was tasting the victim's blood and then using it to write the word "pig" on the front door.

    Maybe it was telling the woman who begged for mercy that there would be no compassion for her or her unborn baby on a night nearly 40 years gone that defined a quintessential California nightmare.

    For whatever the reason, the Board of Parole Hearings said no Tuesday to Susan Atkins, the "Sadie" of Charles Manson lore whose friends and family begged the state to let her out of prison in her dying days on a compassionate release.

    No explanation was given for the board's 11-0 decision.

    "It is what it is," said California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokeswoman Terry Thornton. "The Board of Parole Hearings does not disclose its reasons."

    Atkins, 60, is dying of brain cancer. She's down to one leg – she had one amputated. She's paralyzed on her right side. She can't sit up in bed and can barely talk.

    Since March 18, it has cost the state more than $1.4 million – $1,461,724.17, to be exact – to care for and watch over Atkins at an undisclosed, outside hospital.

    Even the prison doctors at the California Institution for Women in Corona say she'll probably be dead within six months.

    Her trip to eternity will follow the horrific endings she, Manson and the rest of his "family" inflicted on the actress Tate, coffee heiress Abigail Folger, hairstylist Jay Sebring, filmmaker-playboy Wojciech Frykowski, the Tate groundskeeper's friend Steven Parent, musician Gary Hinman, ranch hand Donald "Shorty" Shea, and grocery executive Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary.

    Relatives of the murder victims made sure they were not forgotten at the 1 1/2-hour-long hearing at the board's headquarters in downtown Sacramento.

    "You will hear various opinions and perspectives today," said Jay Sebring's nephew, Anthony DiMaria. "But you will hear nothing from the nine people who lie in their graves and suffered horrendous deaths at the hands of Susan Atkins."

    DiMaria and four others, including two prosecutors, spoke against the compassionate release request.

    Eighteen supporters of Atkins spoke Tuesday on behalf of the dying woman, a central figure in the Manson family cult that murdered the nine people over two summer months in 1969, from the canyons above Hollywood to the deserts and hillside movie lots of the surrounding L.A. region.

    They cited her conversion to Christianity, her Bible study in prison. They cited her work with other prisoners and helping them straighten out their lives. They cited her difficult upbringing.

    Mostly, they cited her disappearing health.

    "Given Susan's present physical condition and diminished capacity, with her health expected to continue to decline in her last days, there's no way you can consider Susan to be a threat to society," said her younger brother, Steven, who, along with his two teen daughters, implored the board to release Atkins.

    The problem, the friends and family said, was Manson, the wannabe rock star whose career faltered while he picked up lost runaways like stray dogs up and down the California coast. Unable to ignite the "Helter Skelter" race war he sought to incite with the killings, he's now locked down in the protective housing unit at Corcoran State Prison, with possibilities for parole.

    Independent filmmaker and Atkins friend Micki Dickoff told the board that Manson turned a suburban kid into a mass killer by dosing her regularly with LSD. Dickoff said Manson manipulated her insecurities and isolated her, even changed her sense of self-identity.

    Rory White, a self-described artist and educator who works with clients in the Skid Row section of Los Angeles, told the board he knew Atkins back when she was running with the Manson gang.

    "She was very intelligent," White said. "She had this compassionate side. But it would flip into this very clear cult-like, kind of zombie-like, robot-like state."

    Steven Atkins said their mother died when Susan was 14, that their father was a drunk who deserted the family.

    "That left Susan to run the streets, and left her vulnerable to sharks like Charlie Manson," Atkins said.

    Patrick Sequeira, assistant head deputy of the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office, detailed for the board the Manson family's carnage. In the end, authorities counted 102 knife thrusts in the nine murder victims, not to mention shootings and other mayhem.

    Sequeira put Atkins right in the middle of it.

    "Miss Atkins is one of the most notorious mass murderers in United States history," he said. "The horrific nature of her crimes alone justifies denial of the request for compassionate release."

    A couple of Atkins' people correctly said it was her statements to cellmates at the old Sybil Brand jail in Los Angeles that broke the case.

    Sequeira said authorities offered her immunity to testify against Manson and the rest, but that she rejected it – at risk of the death penalty, which she later received. It was rescinded for her and every other condemned inmate in the state at the time in 1972 by the California Supreme Court. The death penalty has since been reinstated.

    In prison custody, Sequeira said, "there is no reason to believe she cannot receive appropriate, dignified, compassionate medical care."

    "To grant her a release would be an affront to the people of this state, the California justice system, the family and the next of kin of the many murder victims," the prosecutor said.

    Afterward, Sequeira said his office was pleased by the board's decision.

    Next year, Patricia Krenwinkel, 60, another of the principal defendants, comes up for parole again.

    So far, the core participants in the killing sprees, including Charles "Tex" Watson and Leslie Van Houten, along with Atkins, Manson and Krenwinkel, have been denied parole a combined 57 times."



    The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.

    They have not served a Red America or a Blue America they have served the United States of America.

    Barack Obama
    ************

    Vote McCain/Palin;
    sorry but that's the best we have.

    LP
  • 07-16-2008 11:14 AM In reply to

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    Does anyone remember this as clearly as I do?  I'm very close in age to SA and in fact she at one time went to a high school near the HS I graduated from.  I never knew her but a co-worker did.

    I remember the fear I felt when the news came out...and also the deaths of the LaBianca's.

    Did the parole board get this right?



    The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.

    They have not served a Red America or a Blue America they have served the United States of America.

    Barack Obama
    ************

    Vote McCain/Palin;
    sorry but that's the best we have.

    LP
  • 07-16-2008 11:22 AM In reply to

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    Renee, I remember this so clearly.  We were newlyweds.  It was one of the most horrific crimes I had ever heard of for that time. I agree with the parole board.

  • 07-16-2008 11:25 AM In reply to

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    the whole thing is revolting...I never realised it was that long ago, but remember the horror and revulsion it caused....especially that poor girl expecting the baby, I seem to remember they virtually cut her open...you know, a thought crossed my mind, isn;t it strange how some of these awful people always 'find God' after they have done whatever..and been caught? Never before...

     

    Myra Hindley, the moors child murderess (after torturing children together with her lover) turned catholic after all, and tried for years to be paroled and get out....in a way,. it was a good hting she died in prison, she tried every year I believe...

     

    as for forgiving them, I htink in a way that is up to the relations of the victims, after all, they have suffered the loss...not the general; public...and it is soo easy to tell others to forgive....




  • 07-16-2008 11:33 AM In reply to

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    Renee,

      Yes,  I do remember every bit of this horrific crime.  I have mixed feelings on this ONLY becouse of SA's family.  She deserved the 40 years in prison and even MORE if she was not dieing.  She has 3 months to live.  For the sake of her daughters and family I would say let her out.  BUT for no other reason.    They to had to suffer through all of this and didn't ask for any of it.  Maybe I'am wrong. 

                                                    Cassiebabe

         

    Barbara Anne
  • 07-16-2008 11:36 AM In reply to

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    I too also agree with the parole board.

    Seems to me the people wanting to get her released hit on the $$ angle and it sure isn't cheap keeping her in the hospital and alive.  I also notice how many murderers repent and find God, wish they would have found God before anyone lost their lives.

    Sad condition she's in, I take no pleasure from that, but ..... that's life or part of it.

    PS...yup, so was I Tootie!



    The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.

    They have not served a Red America or a Blue America they have served the United States of America.

    Barack Obama
    ************

    Vote McCain/Palin;
    sorry but that's the best we have.

    LP
  • 07-16-2008 11:39 AM In reply to

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    Barbara--It's tough that she's dying, but I still think after hearing what the families of those who were murdered had to say, I'm still inclined to agree with them & the board.

    I'm guesing SA was married and had her children while in prison?????



    The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.

    They have not served a Red America or a Blue America they have served the United States of America.

    Barack Obama
    ************

    Vote McCain/Palin;
    sorry but that's the best we have.

    LP
  • 07-16-2008 11:40 AM In reply to

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    I was only a few months old then, so I don't remember it but I do remember hearing about it many times.

    I don't think they should let her out.  I think even if she has converted to Christianity that doesn't give her the right to be released.  I've heard of several jail conversions that the people said they were not asking to be released because they had to pay for their crimes that they committed.  I pray that she did receive Christ.

  • 07-16-2008 11:41 AM In reply to

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    Atkins, 60, is dying of brain cancer. She's down to one leg – she had one amputated. She's paralyzed on her right side. She can't sit up in bed and can barely talk.

     

    Karmas a b!tch...I think they made the right choice.

     

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  • 07-16-2008 11:44 AM In reply to

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     I remember it well. I was pregnant myself at the time this slaughter took place. I have no compassion for this woman or any of the other followers of Mason's.

  • 07-16-2008 11:48 AM In reply to

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    The parole board got it right, I have no mercy for her at all.  I am glad it was an 11-0 count to deny her parole.  How could anyone do these horrible crimes.




  • 07-16-2008 11:54 AM In reply to

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     How could anyone that was breathing at that point in time NOT remember these awful crimes???

    I think the parole board made the right decision!!!  she was given life in prison ... and that is what she will have.... 




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  • 07-16-2008 11:57 AM In reply to

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    stewiesmom:

    Atkins, 60, is dying of brain cancer. She's down to one leg – she had one amputated. She's paralyzed on her right side. She can't sit up in bed and can barely talk.

     

    Karmas a b!tch...I think they made the right choice.

     

     

    I agree. May she suffer and rot in hell where she belongs.

  • 07-16-2008 11:58 AM In reply to

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    Having been born in 67 I don't remember any of this when it actually happened. I will say though that I think the parole board got it right.  Don't most people sentenced to prison for life, die in prison?  The fact that she has certain ailments that are perhaps more debilitating than some others doesn't change the fact that she was put there to live out her life until she dies.  That's what is happening so I don't see the point of changing the sentence now.

  • 07-16-2008 12:07 PM In reply to

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    I did read a question elsewhere...so when Charles Manson and Tex Watson are sick and dying...will we want them released as well?

    Unfortunately, I found a website that gave some graphic details--I had to stop reading only slightly into it.

    Many are saying she was never remorseful back those many years, but of course is so now--that tells me a lot.



    The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.

    They have not served a Red America or a Blue America they have served the United States of America.

    Barack Obama
    ************

    Vote McCain/Palin;
    sorry but that's the best we have.

    LP
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