Biga...has anyone used this?

Last post 02-17-2008 10:48 PM by gr_elo. 6 replies.
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  • 02-11-2008 9:24 PM

    Biga...has anyone used this?

    And how is it made?

    And used?

    I have an absolute passion for my local bakery's calabrese bread, but I'd really like to try to make some at home. The texture is the way I like bread to be.

    I've done some searching, and found that I likely need biga....a pre-ferment.

    Can anyone help?

     

    ViolaB 

     


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  • 02-12-2008 12:20 AM In reply to

    Re: Biga...has anyone used this?

    This is not for the particular bread you wanted, but at least it gives you an idea of how to make a biga, how long to let it set and then what you do with it.   This is from King Arthur Flour.

     

    Asiago Ciabatta
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    The nutty, mellow flavor of Asiago cheese adds a kick to this traditional Italian loaf.

    Biga (Starter)
    1 1/2 cups (6 3/8 ounces) King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour
    1/4 cup (1 ounce) pumpernickel, rye, or whole wheat flour
    1 cup (8 ounces) water
    1/8 teaspoon instant yeast

    Dough
    all of the starter
    2 1/2 cups (10 5/8 ounces) King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour
    1/2 cup (4 ounces) water
    1 tablespoon Pizza Dough Flavoring (optional)
    1 1/2 teaspoons salt
    1/2 teaspoon instant yeast
    4 to 5 ounces Asiago or Parmesan cheese, cut into 1/4-inch dice (about 1 cup), plus extra for grating over the top of the bread

    Biga: Mix all of the biga ingredients in a medium-sized bowl until well-blended. Cover the bowl, and leave it at cool room temperature (68°F-70°F) for 12 to 20 hours, until the biga is very bubbly.

    Dough: Mix the biga and the remaining dough ingredients, except the cheese, using an electric mixer set on slow speed, for 2 to 4 minutes. Increase the speed to medium and mix for about 4 minutes; the dough should be soft and slightly sticky. Add additional water or flour if necessary. Mix in the cheese; don't worry if some pieces pop out. Allow the dough to rise, in a greased, covered bowl, for 1 to 2 hours, until it's very puffy. Note: You can also mix this dough in a bread machine set on the dough cycle; add the diced cheese several minutes before the end of the final kneading cycle.

    Turn the dough out onto a well-floured surface, and shape it into two long loaves, about 12 x 4 inches each. Place the loaves, floured side up, onto parchment paper (if you plan to bake on an oven stone) or baking sheets. Cover the loaves with a proof cover or well-greased plastic wrap, and allow them to rise for 45 minutes, or until they're very puffy. Sprinkle them with additional grated cheese.

    Bake the ciabatta in a preheated 450°F oven for 22 to 26 minutes, until it's golden brown. Remove it from the oven, and cool on a rack. Yield: 2 loaves.

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  • 02-12-2008 6:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Biga...has anyone used this?

     Thanks mojazz, so very much!

    It's a start. I think I have a recipe somewhere for calabrese bread. I just didn't have the biga. That's perfect! Thanks again!

     

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  • 02-12-2008 11:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Biga...has anyone used this?

    Looks like I found out something new: Biga

    and to think I have been doing this for 50 yrs and had no idea it was something considered rare. In Germany we call it a "Vorteig" (pre-dough), a spnge or "young" sourdough.

    Sometimes I use the method, sometimes I don't but it sure saves on yeast. I don't even measure, just throw in some fresh ground whole hard white wheat flour, a a couple of hands full of rye flour (ground  a bit coarse like Graham flour) a litle of yeast and some lukewarm water.

    In our bakery in Germany in the evening my father used about a cup of sourdough(instead of yeast)  to make the "Vorteig" for a batch of bread of about 30  loaves of 3.5 lbs ea. to be baked the next morning. He, one or two apprentices and a journeyman helper ach day he baked two such batches of medium dark bread, on ea following  day two batches of different bread plus white bread every other day (more for weekends) and once a week the real dark whole kernel rye called "Vollkornbrot"*** of course lots of hard rolls early in the morning, also Danish for afternoon coffee, some cakes, cookies, bars and special orders.

    ***Vollkornbrot was/is a very wet, sticky dough made of cracked rye, whole wheat kernels pre-soaked, then just enough flour added to hold it together and baked in thin cast iron, lidded pans at low temp for 2-1/2 to 3 hrs. Much like Pumpernickel, but not sweet and much coarser. I wish I could find a couple of pans like that to make some of it. You can find it in some big cities and of course in German or Scandinavian delis.

    I am going to have to try this recipe, have some good Romano Peccarino I can grate. Thanks for posting the recipe.

  • 02-14-2008 7:06 AM In reply to

    Re: Biga...has anyone used this?

    A recipe I have is ....

     

     

    Pane Francese 

     

    Source: The Free Internet Bread Recipe Archive

     

    This recipe is from The Village Baker by Joe Ortiz. It was originally developed for the food processor, but I made it in the bread machine. What a great recipe! The smell! The texture! It uses a lievito naturale, or yeasted biga sponge, for leavening power.

     

    A lievito naturale is very soft and looks like a perfect swirl in a bowl of soft vanilla ice cream after mixing. Pane Francese means "French bread" in Italian, but it's actually a bit flatter, and is reminiscent of the earthy breads made by the early Roman bakers.

     

    Pane Francese has a sturdy, crackly-crisp crust and moist interior filled with uneven holes that will make you feel like one of the most accomplished bakers in the world.

     

    Makes one oblong loaf

     

    Biga Sponge 
    1-1/8 cups water 
    1 teaspoon bread-machine yeast or SAF fast-acting yeast 
    2 cups bread flour (organic, if possible) 

     


    Dough 
    1/4 cup water 
    1-1/4 cups bread flour (organic, if possible) 
    2 teaspoons gluten with vitamin C 
    1-1/2 teaspoons salt 


    Place the water, yeast, and flour for the biga in the bread pan. Program for the dough cycle, set a timer, and mix for 5 minutes. Turn off the machine. Unplug the machine and let the biga starter sit in the bread machine for 8 to 10 hours.



    Place all the dough ingredients in the bread pan. Program for the dough cycle; press start. The dough will be moist and smooth, but flaccid. Take a deep breath while it is mixing; this is what bread dough is supposed to smell like--fresh and yeasty.



    The dough cycle will have a 1-hour rise. At the beep, press reset and unplug the machine. Set a timer for another hour and leave the dough in the machine to continue to rise in the warm atmosphere.



    Scrape the dough out of the bread pan with a dough card onto a floured work surface. Knead a few times and pat into a 12-inch oval. Roll up from the long edge into an oblong-rectangular loaf. Dust the work surface lightly with a bit of flour to prevent sticking. Cover the loaf with a clean tea towel on the work surface and let rest 30 minutes.



    Line a baking sheet with parchment. Carefully pick up the loaf and place it on the baking sheet. As you pick it up from both ends and carry it through the air, it will naturally stretch and extend slightly, which will create a flattish loaf about 14 inches long and 5 inches wide. Dust the top with flour. Cover again and let rest 20 minutes. Preheat the oven to 450 degrees F, lined with a baking stone or tiles on the center rack, if desired.



    Do not slash or glaze the loaf. Place the pan directly on the oven rack, or on the stone if using, and immediately reduce the oven temperature to 425 degrees F. Bake for 30 to 35 minutes, or until the surface of the loaf is a deep golden brown and sounds hollow when tapped with your finger. Remove the loaves from the pans immediately to a cooling rack.



    From The Bread Lover's Bread Machine Cookbook, by Beth Hensperger

  • 02-15-2008 8:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Biga...has anyone used this?

    Thanks JoyceSt

    gr_elo! I should pcik your brain about breads!

    Ok, here's what I found...they're called pre-ferments. There are several kind, including sourdough, and biga.

    Looking through a dozen or more recipes and methods, people seem to want to make it complicated.

    gr_elo, your description of your  Vorteig is perfect. I'll try that one soon.

    I used very little yeast for a decent sized loaf of bread....no more than a 1/2 teaspoon. I don't think I let it rise long enough as it's got a dense crumb. It's also a soft crumb, which is not what I'm aiming for, but I found the flavour aiming for what I want. I used a cup of semolina in place of a cup of the unbleached flour that I use. One recipe used almost all semolina and I thought that a little strange, but I bet that's what I need to do...reduce the amount of ap flour and use more semolina. I've never used it before.

    What do you think?...should I keep making the bread this way, reducing the amount of flour and increasing the amount of semolina? (the cost of yeast is a little much...it makes buying bread *almost* logical) 

     (hmmm, gluten...there's a thought)

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  • 02-17-2008 10:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Biga...has anyone used this?

    Viola,

    you will not find much inside of my head to pick around in.

    Semolina is made from Durum wheat, Durum has the highest protein  ( gluten ) content of any flour and is mostly used just for pasta. If you make bread using only semolina you will get a very chewy inside, more like glue.

    The only time I use it I may add a litle bit to pizza crust dough but mostly make noodles from it.

    I bake white bread with all purpose flour but give white bread away since I seldom eat it even though mine is not as wet, soft and spongy as what you buy in a store. (That store stuff turns into a doughball in your mouth).

    I like something with substance and heft. I don't use recipes. Sometimes I make bread only from fresh ground hard white wheat Sometimes i throw in some coarser ground rye and/or lightly pre-soaked cracked wheat in order to get a coarser texture. Sometimes i throw in some extra bran or a few hand fulls of finer chopped rolled oats. In other words, anything that gets in my way or whatever I think of at the moment. But for the most poart the main ingredient is the whole white hard wheat, from  50 to 100%.

    In case you are wondering: no, I don't do it all by hand, I have a "Santos" kneading machine with a 11 qrt bowl (I bought it about 7  yrs ago when it was half price of what it is now). It does 60 to70% of the work of kneading.To the white bread I give away I sometimes add raisns, or chopped dates and/or toasted sunfloweer seeds.. For fat in it I use butter,but no milk and very little sugar (about 1/4 cup for 5 x-large loaves). I can't count the times I have been asked by oeople to sell them bread but i will not do it.. I would not only be baking wevery day but I also do not have a licensed kitchen (even though that does not matter around here). At my age I am not about to burden myself with that much work. I have been offered $5.00 p loaf 2-3 yrs ago. Even so, by the time you add up the ingredients, the gas for the oven and my hours of labor it would be a losing proposition. I enjoy baking bread and enjoy giving a loaf to people i like. They just take turns and my "customers" are happy if they get a loaf every 6 weeks or so. I always bake 5 to 7 loaves (depending on what kind) every two weeks, I keep one and give the others away. Only when there is a special occasion like a fund raiser bake sale at a friend's church or something of that sort, do I bake in between and also make a couple of cakes then.

     Anbd now I'll wonmder foff and see what other trouble i can get into.

    Good night all.

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