Credit card and Debit card Blocks.....be aware at the gas pump

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  • 07-07-2008 10:14 AM

    Credit card and Debit card Blocks.....be aware at the gas pump

     

    http://feeds.creditcards.com/cobrand//?aid=f7847fb7&action=view_article&article_id=323

     

    Gas buyers fume at credit, debit card limits, 'blocks'

     

    Consumers already frustrated by the high price of gas may also be hit with a couple of nasty surprises at the pump: Their credit cards may turn stingy, imposing limits that leave unfilled tanks, or they may get greedy, "blocking off" more of your credit or debit card limit than needed for a fill-up.

     

    Jeff Lenard, spokesman for the National Association of Convenience Stores, sympathizes. Of the group's 145,000 stores, 80 percent sell gas. "Consumers are already pretty ticked off" over gas prices, he says. "Then they get hit with one or both of these things."

    "These things" are:
    Credit or debit limits too small for a fill-up
    For years, thieves have tested stolen cards at gas stations because they may remain anonymous by paying at the pump. To combat that fraud, stations have imposed limits of $50 to $75. When gas prices were lower, that was no problem. Today's high gas prices cause law-abiding consumers to be cut off in mid-pump.  

    "Blocking off" more than needed
    Card issuers' policies allow merchants to temporarily lay claim to -- "block off" -- a larger-than-needed chunk of consumers' credit limits or debit card balance when the final purchase price is uncertain at the time credit is authorized.

    Holding patterns
    "Blocks" or "holds" assure merchants -- not just gas stations -- they'll get paid in full in cases when a transaction is authorized before a final amount is owed. It doesn't just happen at the pump. For example, the practice lets a restaurateur accommodate an extra-generous tipper or secures a hotelier against guests suddenly infatuated with the minibar. It applies at gas stations too, because the station doesn't know how much will be pumped when it OKs a sale by credit or debit card.

    "If you're running low on funds and only want to pump $20 of gas, your account could be dinged $75, and then a cascade of fees could start," says Lenard. "Guess who benefits from that? Not the convenience store."

    Your account could be dinged $75, and then a cascade of fees could start.

    -- Jeff Lenard    
    National Association of Convenience Stores    

    At gas stations, the hold should only last a few moments -- until the final real amount is processed -- but for signature debit transactions, this may take up to three days. Gas stations have even received complaints from customers when the bank has held the money for a week, Lenard says. "When you look at the electronic statement, it looks like the gas station is holding your money. If you pay by PIN debit, that hold should be done instantly. If it takes significantly longer, someone is messing with your money."

    Why are holds allowed? Jay Hopkins, a Visa spokesman, says they're needed when cardholders use their cards "in places where the exact amount of a transaction may not be known when the merchant first requests an authorization for a purchase.  This feature enables cardholders to take advantage of such services as express or video checkout at hotels, pay-at-the-pump fueling and one-swipe payment at restaurants."

    Hopkins also says the payment network has rules set up to prevent consumers from being too far down and out: "To help ensure that holds do not disrupt cardholder access to the funds in their accounts, Visa requires that card issuing financial institutions release all holds within three business days of the authorization request or when the transaction clears, whichever is earlier," he says.

    Where consumers can be hurt, though, is that rules are unclear about how much can be blocked off, and how soon the unused portion of credit is "returned" to a consumer. The "blocks" can push consumers over credit or debit card limits, forcing them to pay fees

  • 07-07-2008 10:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Credit card and Debit card Blocks.....be aware at the gas pump

    More along the same line - this was in my Saturday paper. (The Cleveland Plain Dealer, article by Theresa Dixon Murray)

    Q: I stopped for gasoline last week and, with the price at $3.99 a gallon, it was going to cost me nearly $100 to fill my tank. But the gas pump cut me off at $75. I was using my debit card. I had a few thousand dollars in my bank account, so a $75 charge was no problem.

    I wanted to fill my tank because I was going out on a weekend getaway to Chicago and didn't want to have to stop for gas before I got there. I complained to the gas station employee that I could get only 19 gallons of gas and he said the $75 limit is imposed by the banks. Why, if I have enough money? E.T., Chardon

    A: The gas station employee is lying, or uninformed. But I suspect it was easier for him to blame someone else than explain the gas station's policy.

    Gas stations don't have to put a dollar limit on the purchase when the card is swiped at the pump, said Mary Kay Bean, spokeswoman for Chase.

    But MasterCard and Visa policies guarantee the gas station will be protected - up to $75 - if the card is being used fraudulently or if the money isn't available on the account.

    Because of this, many stations may stop transactions at $75, Bean said. Others may allow higher purchases but they assume the risk above $75 if the transaction is no good. Some merchants may limit a transaction to only $50.

    National City spokeswoman Kelly Wagner Amen echoed that gas stations' dollar limits are set by the merchants, not the bank.

    If a person wants more than $75 in gas, he can get the $75 worth and then swipe his card again for a new transaction.

    Or he can go inside the station and pay ahead of time, said David Sanderson, debit card manager for KeyCorp. Then the station will process the transaction for a higher amount.

    When you're paying at the pump, some stations will put a "hold" on your debit or credit card account for up to $75, even if you're getting only $20 in gas. You have to wait a few days before that money can be used. You can avoid this by paying inside.

     

     

     

  • 07-07-2008 12:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Credit card and Debit card Blocks.....be aware at the gas pump

    When you're paying at the pump, some stations will put a "hold" on your debit or credit card account for up to $75, even if you're getting only $20 in gas. You have to wait a few days before that money can be used. You can avoid this by paying inside.

     

    Seems to me that a whole lot of headaches can be avoided simply by going inside the store, gas station, whatever and *not* paying at the pump.  It's not like there's a 50 mile hike required to pay inside the actual Business establishment from where the gas pumps are located, right? Surprise

    Krissy~~~ 



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  • 07-07-2008 1:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Credit card and Debit card Blocks.....be aware at the gas pump

    We usually go to a gas station that is pre-pay ....or I go to the local one in town....

    Sometimes I have 2 little ones in the car....It is AGAINST the law in our state to leave kids  alone inside the car for any reason. So I have to adjust where I go ....

    It is hard for me to unstrap 2 car seats to drag the kids inside the gas station to pay or pre pay.....Or if you are handicapped, foot surgery etc.....it is a pain....a short distance to someone, might be a long distance to someone else.

     

  • 07-07-2008 2:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Credit card and Debit card Blocks.....be aware at the gas pump

    DH & I have gone back to using cash for most of our purchases.  In addition to not having to deal with issues noted above...we don't seem to spend cash as easy as we did when it was just a swipe of a card.

    It is not doing the things we like to do, but liking the things we have to do that makes life blessed!
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