I've debated & even tho I'm hesitant to ask this....

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  • 07-23-2008 8:29 PM

    I've debated & even tho I'm hesitant to ask this....

    .......does anyone here go thru anxiety? 

    How often?

    Do you know the triggers?

    I just don't put myself out here regarding things like this, so this is a real gamble. I'll be off for a bit--but any input, kind suggestions, miracle cures (!) would be greatly appreciated.

    :)



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  • 07-23-2008 8:34 PM In reply to

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    I used to. Here are some things that might help you: When you feel an attack coming on, sit in a quiet place and close your eyes. Starting at the top of your head, tighten muscles, then release. Do it five times in every part of the body. Like, make a face really tight, then let it relax. After five times of that, flex your shoulders up really tight, then release. Then flex your arms, your hands, your abs, your legs, your feet. Also while sitting quietly with your eyes closed, breathe in through your nose to the count of 10, then out through your open mouth to the count of 10. Keep repeating. This will lower the anxiety and your blood pressure. Even though it's hard to concentrate, find something simple to keep your hands busy. Don't worry about finding something that engages thought, just keep your hands busy. Cleaning works wonders. Doesn't matter if your sink is already clean, clean it again. When you're finished with that, do the counters. Clean a cabinet out. Scrub the bathroom. Anything that keeps your hands busy. Those are just some tricks I've used in the past that helped me. I feel for you. I suffered with it for several years, and it can be debilitating.
  • 07-23-2008 8:37 PM In reply to

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    I don't know if it's anxiety, but I do fell "down" from time to time...no particular reason for it...



    I'll be so glad when this election's over...
  • 07-23-2008 8:40 PM In reply to

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    I suffered with anxiety for years.  It's nothing to be ashamed of.  I thought I was going to die a couple times cause I was sure I was having a heart attack.  I get really short of breath and get sharp pains in my chest.. I don't really know what my triggers are.  Definetely stress.  Sometimes though it just comes on for no reason.  I used to go lay down for a while but now I've started exercising.  Nothing major but when I feel an attack coming on I just start walking at a brisk pace.  In about ten minutes I feel much better.  My doctor wanted to try to give me something for it but I said no.   I would just prefer something natural over medication but I know a few people who medicine has worked wonders for.  Hope everything works out alright for you.  You'll be in my thoughts.Smile


  • 07-23-2008 8:44 PM In reply to

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    I would suggest that you come to the 'Depression Support' group.  The whole group deals with depression and anxiety.  You can open up and talk about anything and no one judges you.  I used to be afraid to talk about my feelings, but that is over now. 

    Hope to see you there. 

    Darla

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  • 07-23-2008 8:44 PM In reply to

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    This was taken from a website we use as a resource. If you have any questions please PM me and ask. There are no miracle cures for anxiety. More people than you may realize suffer from it. Please seek help, as with depression, it could become worse if left untreated.  Everyone has different triggers. They key is to find a good counselor and go to group meetings. I know that's probably not what you want to hear, but it's the best way to treat it.

     

    "he American Psychiatric Association (APA) provides the criteria for diagnosis of general anxiety disorder

    Diagnostic Criteria for Generalized Anxiety Disorder

    Excessive anxiety and worry (apprehensive expectation), occuring more days than not for at least 6 months, about a number of events or activities (such as work or school performance).

    The person finds it difficult to control the worry.

    The anxiety and worry are associated with three (or more) of the following six symptoms (with at least some symptoms present for more days than not for the past 6 months). Note: Only one item is required in children.

     

    Restlessness or feeling keyed up or on edge

    Being easily fatigued

    Difficulty concentrating or mind going blank

    Irritability

    Muscle tension

    Sleep disturbance (difficulty falling or staying asleep, or restless unsatisfying sleep)

    The focus of anxiety and worry is not confined to features of an Axis I disorder, e.g., the anxiety or worry is not about having a panic attack (as in panic disorder), being embarrassed in public (as in social phobia), being contaminated (as in obsessive-compulsive disorder), being away from home or close relatives (as in separation anxiety disorder), gaining weight (as in anorexia nervosa), having multiple physical complaints (as in somatization disorder), or having a serious illness (as in hypochondriasis), and the anxiety and worry do no occur exclusively during posttraumatic stress disorder.

    The anxiety, worry, or physical symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

    The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism) and does not occur exclusively during a mood disorder, a psychotic disorder, or a pervasive developmental disorder.

    APA. Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th ed. 1994. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association (APA).

    Differential Diagnosis
    GAD must be differentiated from the following:

    Anxiety as a result of an organic cause

    Anxiety triggered by a specific situation

    Normal anxiety in response to stress

    Because brief anxiety is a normal reaction common in specific situations, it is different than generalized, chronic anxiety. GAD must also be distinguished from other psychiatric disorders, medical conditions, and drug-related conditions.



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    Psychiatric disorders that may cause symptoms similar to GAD include the following:

    Major depressive disorder

    Other anxiety disorders

    Obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD)

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    Phobias

    Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD)

    Schizophrenia

    Depression and anxiety often occur simultaneously, and each must be evaluated to make an appropriate treatment plan. When the anxiety is focused on certain situations, as in OCD or PTSD, and when it is expressed as panic, it is diagnosed and treated as such.

    Anxiety also is associated with drug and alcohol abuse. It is a symptom of withdrawal from alcohol, benzodiazapines, cocaine, marijuana, and SSRIs. Certain stimulants (e.g., amphetamines, asthma medication, caffeine) can produce anxiety in the user.

    Organic causes of anxiety include the following medical and substance-related conditions.

    Medical conditions

    Cardiac disease

    Hyperthyroidism (sweating, irritability)

    Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar)

    Heart attack

    Pulmonary embolus (blood clot in pulmonary artery)

    Tachycardia (increased heart rate)

    Temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE)

     

     

    Treatment


    Treatment for anxiety

    combines medication and psychotherapy.

    Medication
    GAD is treated with the following types of drugs:

    • Antidepressants
    • Benzodiazepines
    • Beta-blockers
    • Buspirone

     

    Drug choice is determined by the patient's ability to tolerate side effects and by the drug's effectiveness in reducing symptoms.

     

     

    Psychotherapy
    The goal of dynamic psychotherapy is to identify and explore the causes of anxiety and what they mean to the patient. A therapist may work with the patient on a number of exercises, including stress evaluation and techniques to be practiced while the patient is on his or her own.

    The goal of behavior therapy is to establish coping strategies for anxiety. Behavior and cognitive therapy overlap, because new behavior is only possible after a person is able to replace irrational, anxious thoughts with healthy ones. Methods include the following:

    • Biofeedback
    • Controlled exposure to anxiety-causing situations
    • Meditation
    • Planning relaxed events and relaxation training "

     

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    If I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very best I know how—the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out all right, what’s said against me won’t amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference.” -A. Lincoln

  • 07-23-2008 8:48 PM In reply to

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    I have to add that I am not a Doctor, I am only a mental health counselor, and only a Dr should diagnose and decide what treatment is best for you. I am only providing some information so that you maybe can better understand it.

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    If I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very best I know how—the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out all right, what’s said against me won’t amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference.” -A. Lincoln

  • 07-23-2008 8:51 PM In reply to

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    Sorry, but I forgot to give you this link that may help. Again, the internet is no substitute for professional care.

     

    http://www.overcominganxiety.org/

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    If I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very best I know how—the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out all right, what’s said against me won’t amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference.” -A. Lincoln

  • 07-23-2008 9:02 PM In reply to

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    Now see....I'm near tears and I need to put on my 'happy' face.

    Thank you BFC--we're off to meet our DS coming in tonight so I can't stick around, but your suggestions mean more than you can know. 

    I shall read the rest. 

    Guess I'm not alone afterall.

     

     



    The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.

    They have not served a Red America or a Blue America they have served the United States of America.

    Barack Obama
    ************



  • 07-23-2008 9:05 PM In reply to

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    Restlessness or feeling keyed up or on edge
    Being easily fatigued
    Difficulty concentrating or mind going blank
    Irritability
    Muscle tension
    Sleep disturbance (difficulty falling or staying asleep, or restless unsatisfying sleep)

    I have all of those symptoms.  I have most of the usual symptoms of depression except that one about forgetting to eat.  I could stand a bit of that problem!  Unfortunately, when I went to the doctor I made two mistakes.  I told him about some of the real problems/stressors I'm dealing with, and I asked him if there were any treatments which didn't involve drugging myself into stupidity.  He sent me home with no advice except to take a benedryl if I'm having trouble sleeping.

    Yes, I have moment, often in the middle of the night, when my pulse races and my arms and legs tremble with tension. Sometimes, walking through the house and seeing that everything is normal calms me down, sometimes I use relaxation techniques like the one BFC described, listening to rainstorm recordings or gazing into a color-changing light. So far I've resisted using benedryl, alcohol, or any other depressant to knock me out--I think that would be a very bad habit to get into.

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  • 07-23-2008 9:10 PM In reply to

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    Well, I guess "anxiety" is not what I have...I do feel depressed from time to time...I think everybody does. I don't think it's a serious problem (for me). Sometimes I look around me and think What's the point? Why do I bother?  Other days I'll go azz over tincups and clean like a merry maid...or pull weeds that I haven't touched in months...or, I just say wtf and don't do a thing but chat here or sit on the porch and daydream. Hmm Maybe I DO have a problem! LOL! I'm not trying to make light of this...but I've found (as they say in Reader's Digest) "laughter is the best medicine"!



    I'll be so glad when this election's over...
  • 07-23-2008 9:13 PM In reply to

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    Renee, I have suffered from anxiety too - it is an awful trap.  And you can't help it.  I would just know that something horrible was going to happen (it usually didn't) and so I'd be keyed up, with a headache, with my stomach churning, just waiting for it.  Yes, I took Zoloft but I don't any more.  When I start to tense up I try to find something to do - clean out a drawer, take a walk, scrub the kitchen floor.  I think when you are anxious your adrenaline is elevated and it has no where to go and nothing to do - you are prepared for "fight or flight" - so activity seems to dissipate that extra adrenaline.  I do feel for you - you are not nuts and you are not alone.  

  • 07-23-2008 9:19 PM In reply to

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     Oh Renee.. been there.. go there.. probably always will... but I try to find a "happy place" take a little mental vacation...I will just sit and block out the world... breathe deep...and alot like BFC..the muscles..it does help...It is all so overwhelming somedays...I have learned alot along the way but have more to learn!!  First and foremost is DO NOT cry in the Doctors office...they want you on a bunch of drugs and claim you are clinically depressed.. maybe I am but I don't want their mind numbing drugs....Counseling helps just to have a neutral party to talk to....don't disconnect yourself from people..but the ones that irritate you you don't need in your life!!!!  Love that new granddaughter...and know that no matter what she will love you!




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  • 07-23-2008 9:20 PM In reply to

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    dh is going through this now with panic attacks and anxiety.

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  • 07-23-2008 9:22 PM In reply to

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    I am sorry to hear this! I can't offer any advice, but I want to wish you well. Take care. ((((Renee))))
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